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Posted: Nov 18, 2005 - 12:10 AM Reply with quote Back to top
Hmmm

Romania + Creditcard = Sad

I do hope im wrong, But I would stop the card.

Here are their contact details and what they seem to be licenced to do. http://www.anrc.ro/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=1222


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Posted: Nov 18, 2005 - 06:05 PM Reply with quote Back to top
Novaphon.com's web site and voip services are now down.

If gone, didn't last to much.

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Posted: Nov 18, 2005 - 06:10 PM Reply with quote Back to top
As was pointed out early on in the thread - run away.

Probability dictates that it won't last, and, worst case scenario, you'll lose your money.

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Posted: Nov 18, 2005 - 07:26 PM Reply with quote Back to top
Novaphone seems to be working fine despite romours of their demise (or cutting and running).

In answer to tanghetto earier -- it is an AIX service and not a SIP one. X-Lite is a SIP phone, so won't work (unless they have other server options they haven't mentioned). I downloaded the Idefisk client they mentioned and it seemed to work find for IAX.

Inanswer to jcgalvezv earlier -- thanks for pointing out the user=demo, pw=demo. It was in bold on the page so of course I missed it!

I still haven't been tempted with my credit card number -- I'd be happier if I had one of those credit cards that offer a unique number for a unique transaction.....


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Posted: Nov 18, 2005 - 09:22 PM Reply with quote Back to top
todd :
Novaphone seems to be working fine despite romours of their demise (or cutting and running).

In answer to tanghetto earier -- it is an AIX service and not a SIP one. X-Lite is a SIP phone, so won't work (unless they have other server options they haven't mentioned).
Stephen


They say on the purchasing page the following:

Now you can talk for 0.02USD/min anywhere in the world using your favorite SIP/IAX2 client.

!!! confused now SIP and IAX or only IAX ???

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Posted: Nov 20, 2005 - 01:02 PM Reply with quote Back to top
I'm not sure. The client page (http://www.novaphon.com/client.html) looks as if it's only IAX, but as you say, the prices page (http://www.novaphon.com/prices.html) suggests both SIP/IAX.

(Of course, if you are willing to run Asterisk, you can use a SIP phone to make a call to an IAX only provider).

I might try them with SIP for interest if I get some time .... the weather is too nice out to try now!

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Posted: Nov 22, 2005 - 05:01 PM Reply with quote Back to top
Novaphon took my US$ 5 an disappeared. They have been two days down. No web site, no VoIP service and the worse thing, no reply to emails.

Good trick to say calls US$ 0.02 per minute anywhere to get money from trusting people like me and them disappear.

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Posted: Nov 22, 2005 - 05:57 PM Reply with quote Back to top
Hi

Its back again!! Its at 86.35.74.2 and also at .3 as well.

See how long it lasts there!!

The web site seems to be running on the same oip address as their *, So either thay are the same machine or its port forwarded to the *

Ian
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Posted: Nov 22, 2005 - 09:56 PM Reply with quote Back to top
Yes Ian, I also noticed it. I finally made a 7 minutes call. Good quality.

Let see how long will my US$ 5 last.

Juan C.
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Posted: Nov 22, 2005 - 10:14 PM Reply with quote Back to top
jcgalvezv :
Yes Ian, I also noticed it. I finally made a 7 minutes call. Good quality.

Let see how long will my US$ 5 last.

Juan C.


For 2c/minute, I believe it will last you about 250 minute unless the company also charges for overhead.
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Posted: Nov 22, 2005 - 10:35 PM Reply with quote Back to top
Well 250 mins or 2 months, As I assume thats how they hope to pay for it, By the moneys not spent every 2 months.

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Posted: Nov 23, 2005 - 02:23 AM Reply with quote Back to top
Well, I have talked for 72 minutes with my brother and sister in a a conference.

I used my AsteriskWin32 and Sipura 3000 to call my brother (using novaphon) and conferenced my sister (using callpacket account). Everything worked fine.

I used to spend US$ 10 monthly to call my brother. So US$ 5 per two months is not a bad deal. Well, if novaphon keeps running.

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Has anybody tried calling any european mobiles with this service yet? I'm particularly interested in UK and Greece.

I'm guessing they will either not be allowed, have an extremely high failure rate, very bad quality or very high latency?

Does somebody care to try?
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have an extremely high failure rate, very bad quality or very high latency?


Unlikely, as I suspect all the traffic is going through one gateway.

It may be simply blocked though. I'm also curious as to whether they allow it. That would be extremely expensive to maintain.

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dean :
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have an extremely high failure rate, very bad quality or very high latency?


Unlikely, as I suspect all the traffic is going through one gateway.

It may be simply blocked though. I'm also curious as to whether they allow it. That would be extremely expensive to maintain.

Dean


Why would using a single gateway guarantee any level of quality? Every VOIP provider I've ever used had bad quality to Greek mobiles, voipuser included btw Wink

Anyway to get back on topic, I just did a search for "novaphon demo" on Google and one of the three results was this: http://www.openlogger.com/lines/213/5359-0.html

It's a log of an IRC channel used to trade stolen financial details. About half way down there is what seems to be an advert for Novaphon.

Somebody mentioned before that Romania + Credit Cards means trouble. Could this service exist in order to harvest peoples credit card details?
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