Gizmo Project and Bonjour

Reply from largopredator on Dec 28, 2006 - 06:03 PM

Just thought I'd chime in. I've been using Gizmo for a bit now, and It's nice, lots less lag than with Skype. I had Itunes for a bit, but I deinstalled because I hated the automatic downloading and the inability to move/backup files.

Lately I noticed my internet was really slow. I'm connected to a router. Just now I tried to download Macbreak off of twit.tv, and it was downloading with 27 kbps, where it's usually the tenfold. So I started looking for a reason, and I ended up at mDNSresponder again. I never thought much of it, just let it do it's thing, but out of curiosity after reading some of the responses here, I killed it, and voila, i'm downloading full speed again.

So yeah, Bonjour sucks.

Reply from shane-o on Apr 08, 2007 - 05:23 PM

fruitbane :

OK, to answer some of your questions here... Where to start... Quicktime is packaged with iTunes because much of the functionality in iTunes relies on some components of Quicktime. Apple's AAC codec is a part of Quicktime, as is every other music codec iTunes supports. Apple found it easier to design iTunes to rely on Quicktime for some of its functionality than to design it as a separate, stand-alone application. This makes sense for Apple because they originally designed iTunes on the Mac, and Quicktime is essentially built in to OS X in much the same way Windows Media is built into Windows. In designing a Windows version of iTunes they probably found it made more sense, in more recent versions of iTunes, to keep the Quicktime dependency. It means more users have Quicktime on their computers, thus better market placement among computer users of Quicktime for companies who want to distribute Quicktime content. As for mDNS responder and Bonjour... I have a Windows computer at home behind an SMC router and I have had no problems with it at all. It's installed with iTunes to allow iTunes to share the music library and to allow it to work with the Airport Express. Since music sharing is a core component of iTunes and Bonjour is an Apple-suppored (and largely designed) standard Bonjour must be installed for iTunes to have full functionality. So, why does iTunes install Bonjour? Because it needs it for full functionality. Why does iTunes bundle Quicktime? Because it needs that multimedia foundation to play and encode music. Why does iTunes install the GearSec service? So it can burn CDs. Why doesn't Apple ship a stripped down version of iTunes to stop all the whining in this forum? Well, look how well the iPod sells... Look how many people use iTunes who don't even have an iPod... Clearly, they don't have to ship a stripped-down version. And as all the additional software is required for full functionality and is designed by the same company, they don't have to notify you that they are installing it. It's essentially part of the program. Besides, Apple tends to be good about staying on top of bugs. Have a little patience and Apple may release newer versions of iTunes that fix the Bonjour problem. Also keep in mind that the mDNS responder problems might not actually be the responder's fault. Maybe some aspect of your network is poorly configured. Maybe D-link tried to incorporate some kind of zero-conf (on which Bonjour is based) or mDNS functionality into the routers you have but didn't properly or fully support the spec. So, in summary, all this crap is key to iTunes functionality and is essentially required for the program to work. While things going wrong are indeed frustrating, most users of these softwares haven't had these problems and thus, the problems are uncommon and,often, isolated. Additionally, the problem isn't always the new "element" behaving badly and is sometimes a bad interaction where the introduction of the new "element" might trigger bad behavior on the part of something else. Now, if you are all done complaining, nobody is forcing you to use any of this software. No program is perfect. They all have bugs. Find the combination of problems you dislike the least and use whatever software matches. And instead of just crying about it, send polite, well-thought, and well-constructed emails to the companies that develop these softwares and maybe, just maybe, someone will read them and decide you've hit on something that needs to be changed. In the meantime, stop trying to call software that installs external components because it relies on them spyware just because you don't like it. It's a mis-stating the facts and only confuses the less clueful people in the forum.

the problem is that i do not want anything on my computer that i can't get rid of. what right do these programs have to require me to have permission to remove things from my own computer. i don't care if in the end i screw up my computer, it's mine, and i want this gone.
i did not realize why my router was having so much trouble until i got to this site.
nowhere in the setup if itunes did it ask me if i want this. and i will call any program anything i want. it is malware if it hijacking my router without letting me know what is happening. if this was so innocent, they would have informed me it was being installed at the time. and before you say it, yes, i want to know everything that gets installed in my computer. i check weekly for crap that i did not approve, which is how i found this bonjour s--t.
as for not being forced to use it, how else will i use my ipod? if you have another program that will install and remove things from it, please let me know and i will gladly remove itunes and all from my computer.
quicktime bundle-they were not complaining that they had to get quicktime to use itunes, but the opposite. if you do not have an ipod why the h-ll do you need itunes? why is isn't it possible to just get quicktime?

the very bottom line is that this is my computer, not theirs.
if i don't want what is there, then i should have full access to remove it. these companies are pissing off a lot of people, and then they wonder why hackers and such do so well.

Reply from STOPbonjour on May 02, 2007 - 11:53 AM

from command prompt

sc delete ServiceName
netsh winsock reset

reboot


* change ServiceName to that of Bonjour



<snip>Not here thanks </snip>

Reply from qwerty1963 on Aug 23, 2007 - 04:58 AM

I had the same problems, 100% cpu use, explorer messing up, ect.. I downloaed a little tool called unlocker and deleted the bonjour folder.. All gone now, no more problems.

Reply from Hosay on Sep 23, 2007 - 05:23 PM

Quote:

If using Windows XP... start -> run -> type 'cmd' to bring up a command prompt type 'sc stop "Bonjour Service"' (include the double quotes but not the single ones!) type 'sc delete "Bonjour Service"' Job done. (sc.exe is microsoft-supplied tool for configuring services)

Hello everyone

I'm using Windows XP Pro SP2 and i also found a folder in my Program Files called "Bonjour" and inside are 2 files named: mdnsNSP.dll & mDNSResponder.exe ( after reading this entire thread i believe this was installed after my daughter downloaded and installed iTunes...i completely un-installed iTunes but this folder remains ), I followed the above steps and i get this message:
[SC] OpenService FAILED 1060:
The specified service does not exists as an installed service ... I also tried to delete the Bonjour folder from my Program Files using Safe Mode and i get this message:
Cannot delete mdnsNSP.dll: Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is currently not in use.

Can someone please tell me how do i remove this from my PC?

Thank You for your time and any help is appreciated.

Hosay

Reply from Hosay on Oct 01, 2007 - 04:40 AM

Can anyone answer? Any help? Anyone?

Reply from martyndavies on Oct 01, 2007 - 12:41 PM

If an EXE (or DLL) is running then you can't delete it. Did to try the "sc stop <service name>"? That should kill a running service. BTW you can do "sc query" to get a list of all services running in the machine, including the Bonjour service if it is there.

Reply from AViorel on Nov 08, 2007 - 03:12 PM

to remove the files use this program :

http://www.rovinari.ro/download/lspfix.zip

with this you can remove the mdnsNSP.dll form winsock2 file ... after removing the file form winsock
folow this steps

start -> run -> type 'cmd' to bring up a command prompt
type 'sc stop "Bonjour Service"' (include the double quotes but not the single ones!)
type 'sc delete "Bonjour Service"'

after that just restart the computer and erase the directory and your done ...

one more thing .. i think its an virus or something like that who make`s this files .. this is a second time when i remove the files in about 1 month. i have an antivirus but don`t know how does this files pass`it.

Reply from gben on Jan 25, 2008 - 04:38 AM

I just registered to say 'thankyou' for this thread.

In the past week, my system has really bogged down... it was literally taking over 60mins to boot up! I had no idea what it was. I had firewall, and antivirus uptodate so I was confident it wasn't a virus, but I went to an online scanner to do a 3rd party scan to check.

I was thinking something was not installed properly recently, but nothing was obvious in the add/remove program list. Following the same line of thinking I downloaded, and paid for a registery checker, which fixed it for one day, then back to 60mins boot ups, and sluggish responses for the rest of the day.

then, using the firewall, to see what programs are running - I discovered something called Bonjour... and I'm thinking... WHAT's THAT!

a quick google search, a read, a tortuous uninstall of itunes (it fought tooth and nail!) but everything is back to normal.

phew!
thanks again!

gben

(I share earlier frustrations about the bundle of quicktime and itunes, this experience has made it worsen!)

Reply from gben on Jan 29, 2008 - 11:52 PM

sorry for the double post...

I wanted to apologise because the earlier information about the source of my problems was incorrect. When I uninstalled the program and rebooted - everything was great.

But when I restarted the 2nd time (next day) I was back to normal problems.

Further research shows that problems was related to Zone Alarm Internet Suite and the scanningprocess.exe (bootscan) which was literally using 100% RAM and CPU time!

It's apparently a known bug in the 7.0.462 release and fixed in the beta. But a simple reset back to default settings has helped tremendously for me.

I offer this, in case people are having the same trouble.

Reply from TempUser on Jan 30, 2008 - 04:31 AM

Really nice site here.

Google led me here after I denied "mDNSResponder.exe" from connecting to the internet, and I searched up the term.

After reading everything, I was still worried.

I do not use iTunes, or quicktime, or anything else mentioned here, so how did I get this...thing?

Adobe CS3

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb400982&sliceId=2

Their site will explain this thing fairly well, ESPECIALLY how to kill it and remove it from your computer, which I will post here for ease,

To remove Bonjour:

1. Open a Windows command prompt and type the following command:
"C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe -remove"
2. Navigate to the following folder in Windows Explorer: C:\Program Files\Bonjour
3. Rename the mdnsNSP.dll file in that folder to mdnsNSP.old
4. Restart your computer
5. Delete the the Program Files\Bonjour folder

(This should kill it for anyone, regardless of how you got it, I imagine)

So just adding a bit more insult to injury here, this thing does even more than it seems we were led to believe, 'cause I have not seen anyone else mention its association with CS3.

Thanks for the info and the interesting read, and hope this might help (more).

Reply from TempUser on Jan 30, 2008 - 05:15 AM

-edit note

1. Open a Windows command prompt and type the following command:
"C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe -remove"

that was not doing it for me, and I was tired, so I just went into the file and sent it to recycling and emptied that.

2-5 worked fine, though (also emptied recycling after 5)

I suppose I could have done "del" in command prompt, but I see no difference either way.

Reply from ebetese on Mar 12, 2008 - 05:46 AM

Thanks to the people who provided solutions to removing this THING - Bonjour. Now I feel my machine personal again. I even took this further, by removing the inherited permissions on the bonjour folder and giving only the owner (me), but NOT SYSTEM any rights on accessing it. I hope It will not be so smart next time to install in bonjour-monamour for example, next time.

Reply from Herumakilo on Aug 13, 2008 - 05:03 PM

A few people seem to dislike iTunes (yes, I'm one of them), I eventually found an application called Winamp, give it a try, works with any iPod or any other mp3 player and doesn't have any of the restrictyions of iTunes.

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