Dutch caller can't reach me. 08449791626 08444842105

this I don't understand, I think I have configured my router correctly,

outbound proxy and stun server is given in AVM,

I have followed the instructions regarding D-Link and AVM.

A summary of my router settings is,

LAN connections 2 PCs
192.168.0.4 and 192.168.0.6
one Fritzbox 192.168.0.254



default gateway = router IP = 192.168.0.1


if I call myself up from PSTN ISDN

this happens

26.09.07 12:58:05 Internettelefonie mit 004921514119114 über 213.166.5.133 war nicht erfolgreich. Ursache: Request Cancelled (487)


nslookup 213.166.5.133



Non-authoritative answer:
133.5.166.213.in-addr.arpa name = media-two-gw.magrathea.net.


I can call myself up from GSM cellphone and PSDN,

I can call up the eco test.

Which works fine,

However my friend in Holland uses a service called teledump.

He cannot call me with or without teledump, he has a PSTN number like

00 31 455 ******


I can call him but he never reaches me,

So far we have not tried calling from a softphone or GSM Cellphone.


2)

I can use this number except from holland, 08449791626

Please tell me, what is the other number for ?


08444842105 # this has a malfunction

http://www.voipuser.org/mynumbers.html


My PSTN Inbound Numbers

Click here to request a new number


Number (Click to Edit) Current Termination
08444842105
Primary + Delete
Secondary




VoIP User Outbound Service for morten44
Your registration details are as follows:-

PSTN number: 08449791626



How do i use the inbound number,
can't I use one number for inbound and outbound?


Why do you provide one outbound and one or more inbound numbers?

Please be nice to me and tell me the benefits for one
person to use more than one outbound and inbound number.
outbound and inbound is something I think is used in call centers.

Since I can run the echo test and at least call up myself, from and to the 08449791626

I believe everything is ok, hovever I have observed, that after resetting the router,
it woun't work immediately, before I also reset my fritzbox.

summary of problems,

1) from Holland I cannot receive any call

2) My PSTN Inbound Numbers 0844 48 42 10 5 has never worked,

3) can I use PSTN number:08449791626 so that when friends call me, their bill is charged, and when I call landline, I can use the number, billing the amount previously charged by accepting incoming calls. My Voip user works much like a bank, accepting incoming UDP connections instead of currency.

and my phone numbers are much like bank account numbers.

I need a UK land line simply for applying for jobs.
I'd like to have one or at most two 0044 VoIP numbers, if possible.

Best regards

Morten

Welcome to VoIP User Morten.

Quote:

Why do you provide one outbound and one or more inbound numbers?

We provide services for people to experiment, which sometimes means they require more than one number. You can have up to 4 numbers here, of differing types.

Your other question is answered in the FAQ forum here:-

http://www.voipuser.org/forum_topic_683.html

Quote:

2) My PSTN Inbound Numbers 0844 48 42 10 5 has never worked,

How have you set it up?

Dean

The only way that I know to call the 0844 number from outside the UK is by using Skype but it is quite expensive to do that! (I assume that it still works as I have not tried it for a long time).
Sipbroker has one number in the Netherlands
Utrecht +31-30-711-0327
You might find that useful ("free for the cost of the internal call" - and connects you to the internet so that you can call on via voip).
Best to think of the 0844 numbers as working only in the UK. You may have better luck with the 0870 numbers as they seem to work with more voip carriers. However, I think Voipuser may have ceased to issue them.

dibsmft :

The only way that I know to call the 0844 number from outside the UK is by using Skype but it is quite expensive to do that! (I assume that it still works as I have not tried it for a long time). Sipbroker has one number in the Netherlands Utrecht +31-30-711-0327 You might find that useful ("free for the cost of the internal call" - and connects you to the internet so that you can call on via voip). Best to think of the 0844 numbers as working only in the UK. You may have better luck with the 0870 numbers as they seem to work with more voip carriers. However, I think Voipuser may have ceased to issue them.

Interesting,
I have arcor ISDN and I can call my own 08449791626 from
PSTN ISDN.

what woun't work is the 08444842105, only the echo test works (on both).

from my fritz box

[eingehender Anruf] 26.09.07 20:13 004921514119114 Fon 1 Internet: 021514497379 0:01

Status Internetrufnummer 021514497379: Registriert

I dial from PSTN 0044 8449791626 and recorded in fritzbox is a carpo number, my own carpo voip number.
Which could mean an error or 08449791626 is re routed to a carpo account

Datum Rufnummer Nebenstelle Eigene Rufnummer Dauer
[eingehender Anruf] 26.09.07 20:19 004921514119114 Fon 1 Internet: 08449791626 0:01


after disabling all other voip accounts the correct number is displayed.

I did call myself, as I always do when testing incoming calls, and could find that it was an interesting conversation.

The boring part of the story is that 08444842105 woun't do.
I did the settings as with the other 08449791626, which works, except from dutch users using teledump. www.teledump.nl

I did also change the prefix to +44


PSTN Number Termination Control Panel

Administering Number : 08444842105

My PSTN Inbound Numbers

Number (Click to Edit)

Thank you, your number:
08444842105 has now
been updated to it's new destination

It can be that a small delay in processing is the reason.

I did previously use freenet.de which has excellent quality, but is to expensive in the long run.

If this can be confirmed by dutch residents maybe teledump will accept 0844 numbers.

Another part of the story is that some of the four major mobile GSM services in germany not always connects with one of the two major landline telcos. We have D1, Deutsche Telekom, D2, Vodafone, eplus and O2, I have been working with testing SMS software from and to all four providers and interesting results was sometimes observed. At that moment VoIP starts to be more reliable than PSTN, we have won the game. which means more bandwidth.

http://www.teledump.nl/index2.php

In parts of Germany arcor will introduce NGN, next generation network, I think it is based on SIP rfc 3261.

There is no delay in processing - it's instant.

Quote:

what woun't work is the 08444842105

How have you set it up?

Dean

So Teledump is based on using the premium 0900 numbers like several companies in the UK. 0844 numbers are not listed (0845 are) and I think they list local rate as well. Perhaps you could make use of ENUM. They can be dialed directly from the SipBroker numbers and I think Voipuser will use the ENUM route if it can. It you were to call my number 001709XXXXXXX (canada) it would be routed over voip for free (Voxalot also does the same)

dean :

There is no delay in processing - it's instant. Quote: what woun't work is the 08444842105 How have you set it up? Dean

setup as

v Internetrufnummer verwenden

Internetrufnummer 08449791626

Benutzername morten44


Kennwort

Kennwortbestätigung


Registrar sip.voipuser.org


Proxy-Server sip.voipuser.org

STUN-Server stun.voipuser.org


unchecked Internetrufnummer für die Anmeldung verwenden

unchecked Ortsvorwahl ergänzen


08444842105 is set up exactly the same way.

now I do as follows I uncheck all other VoIP services
only 08444842105 is active and I observe in my fritxbox and router what happens




Status Internetrufnummer 08444842105: Verbunden


27.09.07 10:38 08449863246 Fon 1 Internet: 08444842105 0:01

I call myself 00 49 2151 411 911 4

____________________________Datum_______Rufnummer______Nebenstelle Eigene Rufnummer___Dauer
[ausgehender Anruf]____________27.09.07 10:42 004921514119114 Fon 1______Internet: 08444842105 0:01
[eingehender Anruf in Abwesenheit] 27.09.07 10:42 unbekannt_________________021514119114_______0:00


This is strange Fritxbox observes two entries for one call,

I try again with 08449791626

Status Internetrufnummer 08449791626: Verbunden

[ausgehender Anruf] 27.09.07 10:47 08449863246 Fon 1 Internet: 08449791626 0:01

I call my own ISDN

Datum Rufnummer Nebenstelle Eigene Rufnummer Dauer
[ausgehender Anruf] 27.09.07 10:48 004921514119114 Fon 1 Internet: 08449791626 0:01
[eingehender Anruf in Abwesenheit] 27.09.07 10:48 00448449791626 021514119114 0:00


which is strange

I call back from ISDN to VoIP


[eingehender Anruf] 27.09.07 10:51 004921514119114 Fon 1 Internet: 08449791626 0:01

works fine

In my router I have this

Virtual Server List

voice-over-ip 192.168.0.254 UDP 5060-5069 / 5060-5069 Always
voice-over-ip 192.168.0.254 UDP 7077-7087 / 7077-7087 Always
voice-over-ip 192.168.0.254 UDP 5004 / 5004 Always
voice-over-ip 192.168.0.254 UDP 9000 / 9000 Always
voice-over-ip 192.168.0.254 UDP 3478-3479 / 3478-3479 Always
voice-over-ip 192.168.0.254 UDP 5070 / 5070 Always

Firewall Rules List

Allow 02151.sip.arcor.de WAN,* LAN,192.168.0.254 UDP,30000-30009
Allow voice-over-ip WAN,* LAN,192.168.0.254 UDP,5060-5069
Allow voice-over-ip WAN,* LAN,192.168.0.254 UDP,7077-7087
Allow voice-over-ip WAN,* LAN,192.168.0.254 UDP,5004
Allow voice-over-ip WAN,* LAN,192.168.0.254 UDP,9000
Allow voice-over-ip WAN,* LAN,192.168.0.254 UDP,3478-3479
Allow voice-over-ip WAN,* LAN,192.168.0.254 UDP,5070


ADSL Modem bridge mode,

rj45 ethernet cable to DSL router, which invokes connection with PPPoE two PCs connected to the router LAN outlets with fixed IP one fritxbox connected to the router LAN, ans also which could disturb I have three other routers from FON which sets up my local WLAN hotspot. They could disturb but I don't think so.

It was tricky to get the correct formatting of the status mesages from my fritxbox,





This issue has never been a problem for one of the many VoIP sccounts I have used.

Active sessions
Active sessions displays the current status of NAT active sessions on the DI-604.

Page 1/1
Internal Prot. External NAT Time-out
192.168.0.4:4458 TCP 207.46.109.92:1863 59597 3600
192.168.0.6:43201 TCP 195.4.92.10:993 59903 3186
192.168.0.6:41705 TCP 145.253.2.228:8080 60321 3511
192.168.0.100:2052 UDP 213.134.45.129:53 60367 222
192.168.0.6:38914 TCP 145.253.2.228:8080 60409 3511
192.168.0.6:56066 UDP 195.50.140.250:53 60411 272
192.168.0.110:2052 UDP 213.134.45.129:53 60413 221
192.168.0.4:4495 TCP 207.46.109.92:1863 60959 3600
192.168.0.4:4518 TCP 207.46.109.92:1863 61275 3600
192.168.0.6:46992 TCP 205.188.159.119:993 62275 3187
192.168.0.6:38970 TCP 134.130.7.6:993 62329 3186




View Log
View Log displays the activities occurring on the DI-604. Click on Log Settings for advance features.



Thursday September 27, 2007 11:27:53 Unrecognized attempt blocked from 88.167.2.61:1040 to 88.76.123.69 UDP:137

And lots of stuff which I don't understand, which could be used for troubleshooting. I had a discussion with D-Link about this topic and they said, active sessions is from outgoing, the log file from incoming udp attempts and all SIP connections always tries first at the standard port 5060.

summary,
why is the two voipuser numbers behaving differently?
one is rejecting incoming calls from PSTN ISDN.

I can make the echo test with both, and call out to PSTN from both numbers. Even to Holland works fine.

Incoming calls is only accepted by 08449791626.

Please help, I would very much appreciate to have one or two UK +44 landline voip numbers,

The 08444842105 number is not a SIP account number. They behave differently because they are completely different number types.

If you click on the My Numbers link in the menu (your top left) you'll find the configuration page for the 08444842105.

You can point it to a landline, an IAX device or a SIP device.

If you can explain what you want to do with that second number, we can tell you how to set it up.

Dean

dean :

The 08444842105 number is not a SIP account number. They behave differently because they are completely different number types. If you click on the My Numbers link in the menu (your top left) you'll find the configuration page for the 08444842105. You can point it to a landline, an IAX device or a SIP device. If you can explain what you want to do with that second number, we can tell you how to set it up. Dean

PSTN Number Termination Control Panel
Administering Number : 08444842105

Destination Options :

Destination One PSTN UK - national +44
Destination Two PSTN UK - national +44

SIP is disabled, that could be the error,

here is my setup.

http://666kb.com/i/as5z5y5jg0vxqs5z9.png

I apply for a job in UK,
I put the number on the application,

someone with landline private or business POTS or PSTN calls me,

I don't know if I need the IAX, SIP will do but landline is still more reliable.

I can receive calls from my stationary fritxbox, and I can use the other number to an x-lite softphone client.


That would be fine.

You can point it to a landline,
an IAX device or a SIP device.

Most Likely I hope to get a phonecall from a company, or friends, some has landline, some uses sip.

A SIP account number would be preferred, but I didn't know a SIP account number woun't listen to a landline.

I try it as a SIP account number. If it responds bad on landline or if I need to change it, I know what to do.


Please wait while we update your number..

This process may take up to a minute so please be patient...

Thank you, your number: 08444842105 has now been updated to it's new destination

I tried again same result, incoming only possible from ISDN Landline to 08449791626.

To be honest I don't know or understand the difference between landline SIP and IAX, if 08444842105 could be configured to work as the more succesful 08449791626 I would be happy,

Incoming calls from UK, is the important topic,
from my vodafone mobile it works,


27.09.07 16:21 004915201356040 Internet: 021514497379

and from local landline

27.09.07 16:25 004921514119114 Internet: 021514497379

Actually I dialled 0044 8449791626 but fritzbox recorded a different target number, still greek to me.

I have selected the other number to be a sip number.

My PSTN Inbound Numbers

Click here to request a new number


Number (Click to Edit) Current Termination
08444842105
Primary SIP: Delete
Secondary SIP:


Best Regards

Morten

That doesn't answer my question - what do you want the second UK number to do? Ring a PSTN landline or your Fritzbox or something else?

The Control Panel for it is in the My Numbers link to your top left. Please look at that and tell me how you have set it up.

Quote:

Destination One PSTN UK - national +44 Destination Two PSTN UK - national +44

Looks like you have it completely misconfigured, or not configured at all.

Your router etc settings are irrelevant to this number. If you have your SIP account working with your Fritzbox (which it sounds like you have), just point your second My Numbers number to that SIP address (which is sip:morten44 @sip.voipuser.org).

More help if you need it is available here:-

http://www.voipuser.org/help.htm

Dean

Hi voipusers.org,

It would be nice if my details could be removed from G**gles
search result.

please take a look.

http://tinyurl.com/3jfegd

It gives higher privacy.

http://privacy.net/

Hi Morten44

I am unclear why you have posted the link to privacy.net.
We will look into what we can do. But I would like to point out that all the personal details in the post were posted by yourself or quoted from your original posts. You may wish to edit the post to yourself to remove the details, As im sure you are aware that you need to consider carefully when posting any personal information on the Web, and especially when the site is Googled.

Ian
Site admin

ianplain :

Hi Morten44 I am unclear why you have posted the link to privacy.net. We will look into what we can do. But I would like to point out that all the personal details in the post were posted by yourself or quoted from your original posts. You may wish to edit the post to yourself to remove the details, As im sure you are aware that you need to consider carefully when posting any personal information on the Web, and especially when the site is Googled. Ian Site admin

Hi, what you write is true.

I cannot edit the post myself.

I try to edit my own post and get this error msg.

You are not allowed to edit your post. You have to edit your post within 30 minutes, after you posted your message.

End of msg.

Sure I did post it myself and that was helpful,
for finding a solution. At that time I did not pay much attention to privacy.

If you think it is inappropriate I hope you can delete it as well.

I do apologize.


best regards